Health-Care “Debate”

“Something needs to be done, especially to help the kids and the elderly,” said Williams, 48, who works for the school district in Forsyth County, Ga. “But if the reforms affect the insurance I have now, I would have a deep issue with it.”

The elderly already have government run healthcare.  There is 100% coverage for the elderly.  It’s called Medicare; you may have heard of it.

Kids are generally covered by Medicaid and S-CHIP, more government healthcare schemes.

This “debate” isn’t about kids and the elderly.  This is about working age adults — and a small percentage of them.  It isn’t about truly poor working age adults — those adults qualify for Medicaid.  It isn’t about the disabled — they qualify for Medicare.

This is about able-bodied adults without permanent disabilities who have income but maybe not enough to cover buying their own insurance, people who are in between jobs, and young adults who can afford it but are healthy enough that they just don’t feel like buying it.

If Obama were just concerned with covering those people and not trying to wreck everyone’s insurance, then the right side of the aisle would have already lost the debate.


  1. Yup.

    I’d also recommend the government fix the dang VA and PROVE they can run any kind of health care before they take it all over.

  2. Kristin says:

    I firmly believe health care should be a basic right but, I’ll be damned Phelps you have a point.

    @ Vivian every last VA I have ever stepped foot in is horrible. They make health care facilities in Mexico look like John Hopkins by comparison.

  3. mexigogue says:

    Rights as outlined by the Constitution are protections we have from the excesses of government. The government may not infringe on free speech, they may not disarm us, they may not search us without cause, etc. The idea of rights as being something that the government must provide us is a dangerous idea because government must then figure out how to take things away from some people by means of force to then provide those things to other people. Call that what you will but it ain’t ethical. Reaching into your own pocket to give to the needy is charity. Reaching into your neighbor’s pocket to give to the needy is stealing.

  4. R says:

    The insurance companies have to be eliminated. Bring health care providers back down into the market.

  5. Phelps says:

    Nah, just make it like car insurance. You buy insurance for a real wreck. You don’t get insurance for oil changes. Same thing. I want insurance in case I have a heart attack or bust my leg. I shouldn’t need to have a policy to afford to see a doctor for a cold.

    (Actually, I should be able to get my own tamiflu without saying “mother may I”, but let’s not get crazy here.)